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	<title>车聚网 &#187; 爆粗口</title>
	
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		<title>李想连爆三个TMD，原来是一场资本操控下的公关秀？&#124; 聚焦</title>
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				<description><![CDATA[<p style="box-sizing: border-box; padding-left: 0px; text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun;">8月29日，成都。李想在一个用户活动上公开骂街了，一分多钟连爆三个TMD。</span><br/></p>
<p style="white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 2em; text-align: center; text-indent: 0em;"><iframe src="https://v.qq.com/txp/iframe/player.html?vid=i3145fogfbi" width="400" height="260" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" align=""></iframe></p>
<p style="white-space: normal; box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); line-height: 2em; text-align: center; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 14px;">▲李想成都爆粗口，时长约1：30分钟</span><br/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: center; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 14px;">建议调低音量，避开未成年人</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">为了方便下文讨论，车聚君把该段讲话原文抄录如下：</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">“所有从全国各地开着理想ONE来到成都的车主朋友们，如果把你们的车，换成一辆纯电动，你干不干？”</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">（干，不干的声音都有。）</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">“对。第二，我知道在坐有非常多的车主，家里是同时有燃油车，也拥有理想ONE的。那我问一下：你们家里的燃油车，现在还开不开？”</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">（开，不开的声音都有。）</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">“好，这是今天想跟大家分享和沟通的一个最重要的话题：就是为什么不能是增程电动？这是一个很重要的话题。为什么不能是增程电动？对，我先说一个难听的话，<span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">对，TMD，一帮搞臭技术的，对，天天冲着我们BB，什么增程电动是个落后的技术。对，天天冲着我们BB，什么增程电动是个落后的技术。</span>对，请问：他们TMD的懂个屁技术？对。”</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">（起哄，口哨）</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">“一群毫无用户思维，完全不关心用户的一帮人，天天在研究技术路线，TMD的什么技术路线啊？胡说八道。”</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">（叫好，起哄）</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">一、<span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">一边吃电动车奶，一边骂电动车娘？</span></span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">当李想问用户，把车换成电动车干不干时，他开始偷换概念了。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">言外之意，理想ONE不是纯电动车，且比纯电动车有优势。可理想ONE自问世以来，不一直宣传自己是电动车么？尽管它带一个1.2T三缸机，但被解释成增程器，最终做功的是电机，所以它坚称自己是电动车。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">现在又公开DISS电动车，谜操作第一波。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="box-sizing: border-box;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/39901599072084.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098960848" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">你看李想4月的发言，抱怨特斯拉降价会“打残国内的纯电动品牌”，明明是把自己算在「纯电动」之内的，否则他干嘛哀叹“灭顶之灾”？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">所以在他眼里，理想ONE的身份一直是一只「薛定谔的猫」。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">需要政策补贴时，电动车是小甜甜；需要向用户洗脑时，电动车是牛夫人。需要夸时是一朵楚楚可怜的白玫瑰，需要贬时就成了衣服上的白饭粒。李想虽然没上过大学，但绝对是谴词用句的高手和逻辑鬼才。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/60971599072085.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064101119204" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">妙的是，现在理想官网站把自己定义为：更自由的智能电动车。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">自由，大概是说想定义成啥就说啥，可甜可咸，可油可电；智能，是说会根据语境自动调整说法，哪头占便宜就说哪头。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">可李想忘了吗？他造的第一款车SEV，不也是纯电动车吗？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">有意思的是，视频中现场用户真有人说：“干”。意思是，还是有人愿意把理想ONE换成纯电动车。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">而且，在@车圈大事件 的评论里，有人也说了：理想ONE不错，要是纯电动的就买了。这跟理想一部分用户的想法一致。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/31301599072085.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064101119289" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">原因也不复杂，电池技术的快速迭代，让实际里程跑到500km以上已成现实；同时各种补能方式，在明显缓解（虽然尚未完全根除）人们的旅程焦虑。事实上，大家对纯电动车的焦虑，从单纯的里程是否够长，变成了：</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">NEDC续航是否真实？三元锂电是否安全？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">李想当初设想的「里程焦虑」这个天然假想敌，不那么成立了。这大概也是他把网站口号改掉的原因吧？也大概是他愤怒的原因之一吧？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">二、<span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">看不起油车，可40%理想也是油车</span></span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">理想第二个问题，则指向了燃油车。他问台下的用户，想不想再开回燃油车。回答同样有意思，并不是异口同声的“不想”。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">有人想过为什么吗？道理很简单。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/1711599072085.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064101119100" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">上图，是今天车聚君与一位理想ONE的销售的对话。一个令人惊讶的事实是，在该地区居然有大约40%的理想ONE用户没有充电桩。而有充电桩的用户，在跑较长距离时也会选择加油。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">这意味着，约一半的理想ONE在烧油。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">那你问用户，还开不开燃油车有啥意思？他们很多人就是在把理想ONE当燃油车开啊？那么，这车的环保性在哪里？国家补贴的意义又在哪里？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">这个事实，车聚君震惊之余也能理解。毕竟，插电式混动车已经出现过这种“软性骗补”情况。特别是在北上广深这种限牌城市，相当一部分插混用户并不充电，买车只是为了一个绿牌。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/87691599072086.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064101119227" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">而且车聚君一直不明白，理想ONE可烧油可充电，在用户体验上和插电混动有多大区别？有何颜面一直叫自己电动车？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">今年4月，李想终于在媒体会上坦承：以后不讲增程式电动车了，改叫插电混动了。可惜，他又一次踩错了点儿。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">插电混动因技术复杂，风险更高而被主流车企逐渐放弃。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">比如，沃尔沃是最早倡导插电技术的车企之一，甚至一度宣称全部车型实现插电化。但它很快发现，T8插电车型的维修率明显偏高，客户满意度低。如今它在两极分化：一方面大力推广结构简单的48V微混，另一方面大力发展自己的纯电车型，甚至还把Polestar独立出去只做纯电动。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">数据显示，7月中国插电混动乘用车占新能源的市场份额为18%，较前几年50%的份额可谓断崖式下滑。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/51391599072086.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098968914" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">不比不知道，一比吓一跳。买一辆32万的理想ONE和买一辆28万的唐DM，在补能体验上没有太大差别，连销量也接近，但性价比也差太多了吧？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">那用户为什么还要买理想ONE呢？仅仅是因为没有品牌负资产？还是因为更贵，而且还上不了北京绿牌？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">一位博友的话让人忍俊不禁：因为唐DM少了一个T啊！</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">三、<span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">口吐芬芳，连骂三个TMD是骂谁？</span></span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">这位博友明显是在讽刺，李想在一分多钟里连骂了三个TMD。他在骂谁？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">有博友说，李想大概是针对前几天蔚来汽车副总裁沈斐的言论吧？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/43051599072086.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098968579" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">说实话，沈斐这段话虽然直接，但得到了汽车圈大部分人士的认同，连网上的吃瓜群众也表达了对增程路线的困惑。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">一个网友就问了：用烧油的方式发电不是脱了裤子放屁吗？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">还有读者拿前一段一个暴火的国外视频来作对比，一个美国Model S车主用光电抛锚了。他向路人要了一桶汽油。然后打开后备箱，拿出了一个HONDA发电机，注入汽油，开始发电，并给自己的特斯拉充电。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/14301599072086.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease159906409896866" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">理想ONE的动力系统，比人工发电更复杂：它的发动机和发电机是分离的。在高速增程模式下，发动机、发电机、电动机三个动力系统要同时工作，1.2T三缸机不仅要带动发电机发电，还要输出少量动能到齿轮组。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">跑高速时，车主反应的实际油耗是11L/100km多。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">理想APP上一位ID为“金”的车主，分享了自己的经历：从天津到青岛打了一个来回，最高时速128km/h，表显油耗10L/100km，实际油耗11L多。他不觉得油耗高，只觉得油箱小，因为“500km的路程，搞不好得加两次油。”</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">听上去，不比纯电动车更方便，也不比燃油车更省油啊？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">另外，两套系统叠加，也会增加复杂性和故障率。沃尔沃T8已证实这一点，理想ONE接连出现几次起火事件，也被业内质疑或与设计有关。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/65751599072087.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease159906409896885" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">沈斐又解释：增程式是想赌近两年充电设施不完善，但他相信加电比加油更方便很快会实现。并称：或许所有增程下一款或再一下款车，一定是纯电。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">这话确实直接，但有一定逻辑，且不算失礼。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">但在李想口中，成了“一帮搞臭技术的”，并附赠了三个TMD。意思是，搞技术的不懂用户思维，也不懂技术，纯粹是胡说八道。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">这算人身攻击了，也是整个视频的高潮。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">那么，李想的增程式电动车是很新的技术吗？也不是。雪佛兰VOLT早在2007年就推出了类似技术，最后因为不适应市场需求而停产。现在整个通用在加速向纯电动车转变，并推出了Ultium电池新技术。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/41611599072088.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064101119625" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">李想眼里，电动车是一百年前的技术路线，谈不上创新。话不能这么说，从实验室里做出来，到大规模量产应用，在汽车行业一直是难题。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">涡轮增压技术1905年就有了专利，但一直到1970年代才由萨博等厂家批量应用，并逐渐成熟。双离合技术1939年就有了，但直到2002年才第一次应用到量产的奥迪TT上，然后再经过2013年大众DSG大召回才日渐成熟。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">电动车也一样，虽然出现的早，但在1991年才有通用EV1的量产车问世，很快停产。但它激发了2003年成立的特斯拉公司，后者直到2008推出Roadster才解决了量产电动车续航不够长的问题。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">直到特斯拉2012年推出Model S，电动车才算正式进入规模应用。而2017年问世的Model 3，才算真正让电动车进入普通家庭。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/33521599072088.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064101119380" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">无论纯电动、插电混动、还是增程式电动，都是在前人基础上一步步积累创新而来，是一个由量变到质变的结果。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">只是单纯讨论出现时间，没有实质性意义。否则我们可以说：蹴踘早在2300多年前就在中国出现了，所以足球运动有啥了不起？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">以特斯拉为首的电动车，与100多年前的电动车有了质的变化。这个质变，也不过是最近几年才发生。关键节点是，Model 3的销量达到了一定量级，在全球市场得到了初步认可，并改变了几乎所有车企的未来战略。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">理想ONE代表的增程电动车，目前只在中国卖了一万多台。之前没有成量的积累，目前也鲜有同行呼应，重要的是没有形成质的创新。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">它的技术路线参考VOLT，1.2T三缸机来自东安动力，车型倒是自己设计，但不少媒体人发现机舱过于紧凑，存在散热风险，这或许和后来几起起火事件有关。前悬下摆臂材料有创新，使用了钢-尼龙玻纤混合材料，但也被指和几起疑似断轴事件有关。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/6371599072088.jpg" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098972832" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">不过，理想也确实有几项创新：</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">▎技术创新。工信部公示的《车型目录》显示，理想ONE的电池总能量是38.5kWh，纯电动续驶里程是148km。而它的宣传是40.5kWh和180km。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">▎市场创新。通用和吉利两个国内外一线车企，都没能让消费者接受自家巨资投入的三缸机，而初出茅庐的理想做到了，还是装在30多万的车上。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">▎公关创新。事故说明中把起火说成是“冒烟”。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">至于李想说的水军一事，车聚君先笑一会儿，不发表评论。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">四、<span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">或是做秀，一场低劣的公关营销？</span></span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/8461599072089.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098972656" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">一位知名媒体人在评论区说：TMD三个字，说的特别紧张，一点也不真诚。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">另一位媒体人回复：台词准备好了，情绪没到位。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">还有一位车评人说：脏话无所谓，关键是没什么说服力，忽悠的条理和逻辑远远不如李斌，气氛带动节奏也没掌握好，没有一个起承转合，高潮爆发比较突兀，感觉是为了骂街而骂街。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">车聚君又仔细看了几遍视频，发现可能有提词器。另外，李想在爆粗时，说了两句一模一样的话：</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">“<span style="color: rgb(89, 89, 89); font-size: 16px; box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700;">对，天天冲着我们BB，什么增程电动是个落后的技术。对，天天冲着我们BB，什么增程电动是个落后的技术。</span>”</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">对，两句话没差一个字。如果不是照着念，做到一字不差还是有难度的。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">那么，上面几位媒体老师的猜测，比较有道理了：这是一场公关秀。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">有人这样推测：李想的公关团队可能想让他学Elon Musk的不羁风格，通过公开怼人的方式，达到慑敌的公关目的。简单说：使酒骂座，一战成名。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">如为真，他们大错特错了。马一龙因为公开辱骂泰国救援者，市值缩水20亿美元，最后被迫公开道歉。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/78511599072090.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064101119175" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">另外一个最不应该的就是：现场有很多小朋友。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">宣称自己的车是“奶爸车”，却当着车主孩子的面连说三个TMD。其他真性情的企业家可能也说过TMD，但不太会公开说，说也不会说这么多，更不会当未成年人面儿说。这可能是李想一生中的污点了。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">至于骂街的效果嘛，有评论说：想起了贾跃亭和瑞幸咖啡。还有人说：怎么感觉像传销现场？车聚君目测，90%以上的评论都持反感态度。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">其中一个评论最有水平：上一个说别人不懂用户思维的人，现在正在直播带货中。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="box-sizing: border-box; font-weight: 700; font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">车聚小结</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">事出反常必有妖。李想为何出此下策，来做秀呢？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">车聚君认为，理想名字叫理想，却是中国最现实的一家公司。能让李想失态，无非是实质利益受了威胁。想下来不过：销量、股价、公司资产。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/12071599072090.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098975741" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">目前看，理想ONE的销量还可以，在五六月连续下跌之后，7月恢复到了2500辆的水平。8月最新数据是，理想ONE交付了2711辆，接近高点。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">某二线城市的一位销售介绍：购买者以35岁以上居多，家境殷实，已购车主推荐占5成左右。怪不得李想这么奔放的在用户面前preach to the choir，原来可以一生二，二生三啊。那外界质疑算什么？</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/99821599072091.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098975500" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">股价确实不太让人省心。连续大跌大涨，像李总的情绪控制一样。车聚君结稿时，股价是17.40美元，下跌近5%。倒也还好，至少还高于发行价。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;"/>那最后一个可能是，力帆资不抵债，申请破产。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">2018年12月，力帆汽车以6.5亿元出售子公司「重庆力帆汽车有限公司」全部股权，买家为李想的车和家。之后公司更名为：重庆理想智造汽车有限公司，同时理想获得了宝贵的造车资质。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">2019年12月，车和家退出重庆理想智造的投资人，还给了重庆力帆控股。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">2020年3月，重庆力帆控股也退出了重庆理想智造投资人，新投资人为重庆满旺机械配件销售有限公司。<br style="box-sizing: border-box;"/>股权上，理想与力帆系撇清了关系。但当时除转让力帆汽车股份外，力帆集团还与车和家达成了六项合作协议，第一项就是：增程式纯电动动力模块控制技术的研发成果共享。而且，力帆股份还出资参与了理想的一轮融资。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">换句话说，增程式技术值不值钱，直接关系到投资人力帆的切身利益。</span></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><img src="https://www.autoju.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/201599072091.png" contenteditable="false" id="netease1599064098975469" style="box-sizing: border-box; border: 0px; vertical-align: middle; max-width: 100%;"/></p>
<p style="box-sizing: border-box; color: rgb(68, 68, 68); font-family: helvetica, Arial, &quot;Hiragino Sans GB&quot;, &quot;Microsoft YaHei&quot;, simsun; font-size: 18px; white-space: normal; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); text-align: justify; line-height: 2em; text-indent: 0em;"><span style="font-size: 16px; color: rgb(89, 89, 89);">从8月25日开始，ST力帆连续4个跌停。周末休市，李想通过三个TMD，“为增程技术正名”后，周一的8月31日，该股立马大涨，至今已连续三个涨停，9月2日报收4.12元，接近上周连跌前的水平。</span></p>
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